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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 12, 2012 5:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tape-flips (probably a stoopid question)

As a taper, esp with my own band (the DEAD cover band), it was easy for both of these things to happen regularly: 1) we started the tape and let it roll. Often there were LONG breaks between songs that have been edited out of the show you hear, but the first set of six songs might have taken twice as long in "real" time. 2) the sound check prior to the first song was often in need of dramatic reduction in intensity for a variety of reasons. We always wanted to be sure we had the mix to a point that no leads/mics would result in distortion due to having been set at a high level...it was an obsession; folks really worried about the inputs being so high (intensity) that the tape would be clipped (high end absent, etc). In my view we should have been much more concerned with getting the "full" sound of having the meters right up against "red line" (and "in" to it at peak volumes).

Monte can fill you in on the impt addt'l aspects.

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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Sep 12, 2012 7:22pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tape-flips (probably a stoopid question)

You're a taper ?

That's funny, I always thought that you were a restaurant (see attached):

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Poster: dark.starz Date: Sep 13, 2012 7:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tape-flips (probably a stoopid question)

A 7" 1800 ft. reel tape running at 7 1/2 IPS (inches per second) runs for approximately 48 minutes, at 15 IPS somewhere @ 24 minutes.

A 10 1/2" 2400 ft. reel tape running at 7 1/2 IPS runs for approximately 60 minutes, at 15 IPS somewhere @ 30 minutes.

When the folks at the board were paying attention, flips and changes could be managed between songs and sets. Sometimes due to the length and continuation of songs -> particularly their second sets, reel changes happen in the middle of songs.

In the 80s with the audience cassette tapers you would flip side A of the first set 90 minute tape if you were close to the end (within 7 minutes remaining) between song breaks.

Side A of the second set tape usually ran out in drums, you just did a fast flip no big deal. Encores usually ended up on side B of the first set tape.

After 1976, most shows became more predictable in terms of the length of both the first and second sets which coincided nicely with two 90 minute cassette tapes.




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Poster: Tidewater four ten O nine Date: Sep 12, 2012 9:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Tape-flips (probably a stoopid question)

Yo, see you can type !!!!!

Meet ya in the William Tell Restaurant/Bar (Hua Hin, Thailand), the beers are on me.

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